TiVo Targets Smaller MSOs & Confirms Canal Digital Deal Is Dead

TiVo Logo Back in March I spotted a news article that seemed to indicate TiVo’s deal with Conax to bring the TiVo experience to Canal Digital’s Scandinavian satellite customers might have fizzled out. And last month at The Cable Show TiVo confirmed to me that the deal was effectively dead. However, neither side was making any official public statements – but that seems to have changed. A new article from Consumer Electronics Daily includes statement from TiVo President & CEO Tom Rogers which put the nail in the coffin of that deal:

In addition to focusing on small- and medium-size U.S. operators, TiVo will seek to expand distribution in Western Europe, Rogers said. But TiVo has parted with one potential partner in Telenor’s Canal Digital direct-to-home satellite service in Scandinavia, Rogers said. TiVo signed an agreement with Canal Digital in late 2010, but the company has undergone a management shakeup, including the departure of CEO Tone Krohn Clausen, and is said to have been up for sale.

“They had a big strategic process they were going through in selling the company and we decided pouring resources into a company that might be selling itself near term might not be the smartest thing,” Rogers said. “It’s not clear what they are doing and for the kind of shoulder that it takes roll out what we do, we knew that it would not be the best circumstances.”

So we finally have an explanation of what happened with that deal. It’s dead, Jim. Well, at least for now. It sounds like the door is still open if Canal Digital sorts their issues out and is still interested, but TiVo doesn’t want to get involved for now.

You might have noticed the first sentence in the quoted material, about small- and medium-sized US operators. That’s actually the main gist of the CED article. TiVo is seeing most of their traction in the US come from those operators, and not the big boys. So they aren’t putting a lot of energy into pursuing ‘Comcast-size’ deals. While TiVo’s deal with Comcast is significant, it is clear that Comcast’s focus is on their own in-house developed service, X1. While it seems that Comcast will fulfill their end of the agreement and continue to expand coverage of TiVo support for XFINITY VOD, TiVo is really a secondary offering for them. Their primary push is going to be X1, and understandably so.

Five of the largest MVPDs in TiVo-served territories – Comcast, British Sky Broadcasting, DirecTV, Dish Network and Time Warner Cable – are working on DVR strategies in-house and are unlikely to ever adopt TiVo’s software as their primary platform. I’d also add Verizon FiOS and AT&T U-Verse to that list. While TiVo may be able to collect licensing revenue for their patents from these providers, there’s little chance they’ll contribute directly to subscriber numbers. But the small- and medium-size MSOs don’t have the resources to develop their own DVRs, so they need third party vendors to fill the need – which is where TiVo comes in. They’ve already had success in the US with MSOs such as RCN, Suddenlink, Grande Communications, and more.

Of course, they have landed one major MSO as well – Charter Communications. But the deal seems to be stuck in neutral. Charter began deploying TiVo in Fort Worth, TX last November and at the time planned a“full production launch enterprise wide in the first half of 2012.” However, in February of this year they announced they they were pushing the schedule out, without providing any new time frame.

Since then we haven’t really heard much, and Charter’s TiVo deployment remains limited to Dallas & Ft. Worth, TX. Rogers stated that TiVo is “working closely” with Charter to expand their deployment into new territories. There has been some speculation, which I also heard going around The Cable Show, that Charter might be one of the early customers for the new Pace XG1 running the TiVo software. And that could account for the hold up, waiting for the XG1 to be available, but that’s just a rumor and I don’t know that I’d put much stock in it.

Check out the Consumer Electronics Daily article for yourself.

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  • https://twitter.com/#!/TechWzrd Sam Biller

    This is my speculation but connecting the dots from multiple sources leads to this conclusion which I’m nearly certain about.

    Charter is switching to the Pace XG1 with TiVo Software. The roll-out is scheduled to begin later this year but I’m guessing that is an aggressive schedule since its a new box with new software. The Pace XG1 probably offers Charter a lower cost since it is replaces a number of devices in the home. It has a much faster Broadcom processor inside so it should be able to offer the TiVo Stream functionality without the need for an external box. It should also be more responsive from a user experience perspective. Finally, it has six-tuners instead of four.

    Here are TiVo’s Tom Roger’s comment when he was specifically asked about the Charter relationship the day after earnings at a Sanford Bernstein conference.

    Charter is the biggest relationship we have among US operators. Charter relationship is good. We are in a good position to do something quite significant there. I sighted on the earnings call yesterday, Tom Rutledge, the new CEOs comments on the value of TiVo as an interface, our value proposition as something that can evolve going forward with future generations of implementation that they are looking at. The fact of the matter is that Tom Rutledge came to Charter with a very clear point of view that he wants to enhance the perception of the video offering of Charter and to do that is one of his top priorities. We’ve done a lot of work to be in a position with Charter to do just that and I think it will become apparent that we are playing that role. We look at the Charter relationship where we are all about the UI. Far less important about the hardware. Separate the role of user experience and UI with hardware. We provide hardware as a vehicle for operators to do that but its important as a faster way to move. We are very comfortable playing the role of building into other hardware. At the Cable Show last week we had a very positive reaction as people went from our booth to see the user experience and went next door to the Pace booth to see the user experience built into the Pace hardware and saw that you could combine what is perceived as best-in-class in user experience with what is viewed as the most efficient CapEx implementation in the Pace hardware and the combination of those really do hit a sweet spot that operators are focused on. That provides us a great way to move forward broadly with the cable industry.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/TechWzrd Sam Biller

    This is my speculation but connecting the dots from multiple sources leads to this conclusion which I’m nearly certain about.

    Charter is switching to the Pace XG1 with TiVo Software. The roll-out is scheduled to begin later this year but I’m guessing that is an aggressive schedule since its a new box with new software. The Pace XG1 probably offers Charter a lower cost since it is replaces a number of devices in the home. It has a much faster Broadcom processor inside so it should be able to offer the TiVo Stream functionality without the need for an external box. It should also be more responsive from a user experience perspective. Finally, it has six-tuners instead of four.

    Here are TiVo’s Tom Roger’s comment when he was specifically asked about the Charter relationship the day after earnings at a Sanford Bernstein conference.

    Charter is the biggest relationship we have among US operators. Charter relationship is good. We are in a good position to do something quite significant there. I sighted on the earnings call yesterday, Tom Rutledge, the new CEOs comments on the value of TiVo as an interface, our value proposition as something that can evolve going forward with future generations of implementation that they are looking at. The fact of the matter is that Tom Rutledge came to Charter with a very clear point of view that he wants to enhance the perception of the video offering of Charter and to do that is one of his top priorities. We’ve done a lot of work to be in a position with Charter to do just that and I think it will become apparent that we are playing that role. We look at the Charter relationship where we are all about the UI. Far less important about the hardware. Separate the role of user experience and UI with hardware. We provide hardware as a vehicle for operators to do that but its important as a faster way to move. We are very comfortable playing the role of building into other hardware. At the Cable Show last week we had a very positive reaction as people went from our booth to see the user experience and went next door to the Pace booth to see the user experience built into the Pace hardware and saw that you could combine what is perceived as best-in-class in user experience with what is viewed as the most efficient CapEx implementation in the Pace hardware and the combination of those really do hit a sweet spot that operators are focused on. That provides us a great way to move forward broadly with the cable industry.

    • http://www.gizmolovers.com/ MegaZone

      Actually, from my conversations with Pace at The Cable Show, the XG1 is running an Intel processor, not Broadcom. And I specifically asked if that includes the TiVo Software and they said yes, they ported it to the Intel chip. The current model XG1 with the Intel chip includes one transcoder. So it wouldn’t be able to replace the TiVo Stream, at least not fully.

      They did say later models of the XG1 are planned which will use a Broadcom chip, and there is the one with six tuners and four transcoders, so that could be where they go. But it sounds like that model of XG1 won’t be available until 2013.

      • https://twitter.com/#!/TechWzrd Sam Biller

        <>>

        I was basing my comment on the original MCN article –> http://www.multichannel.com/article/484838-Cable_Show_2012_Pace_TiVo_Tee_Up_Six_Tuner_Video_Gateway.php

        The Pace XG1 includes six tuners, an integrated DOCSIS 3.0 modem, and at least 500 Gigabytes of on-board storage. The gateway runs on Broadcom’s BCM7425 dual high-definition, dual-transcoding hybrid gateway set-top box system-on-a-chip that offers 3000 DMIPS (Dhrystone million instructions per second) of processing power. The Pace XG1 will support Multimedia over Coax Alliance (MoCA) 2.0 and includes Broadcom’s BCM3383 DOCSIS 3.0 8-by-4 chip for up to 320 Mbps down and 120 Mbps upstream.

        This seams consistent with the Pace PR –> http://www.pace.com/universal/news-events/press-releases/2012/pace-introduces-xg1-multi-tuner-video-gateway/
        The Pace PR doesn’t talk about Broadcom specifically but it is my understanding that the X1 being deployed to Boston by Comcast only supports 3-tuners.

        Admittedly. this is really confusing since there isn’t a specific press release from TiVo or Pace that talk about the internal processor.

        • https://twitter.com/#!/TechWzrd Sam Biller

          Turns out this PR from TiVo had additional information –>
          http://investor.tivo.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=106292&p=irol-newsArticle&id=1697978

          As previously announced, this initial offering will first be made available by Pace to cable operators in the Americas later this year. TiVo and Pace also expect to follow the XG1 with additional solutions for domestic and international operators soon after.Additional specifications of the Pace XG1 include:– 3000+ DMIPS host processor
          – Support for 6 QAM channels
          – Expandable memory up to 2 GB of DRAM, 512MB of Flash and 4 GB of
          unprotected non-volatile memory
          – MoCA 2.0
          – Interfaces include HDMI 1.4, USB 2.0
          – RCA connectors for CVBS and L/R audio along with a CH 3/4 RF output
          with BTSC stereo audio, and an optical S/PDIF interface
          – Options include component video and a 1394 port

        • http://www.gizmolovers.com/ MegaZone

          Yeah, I’d seen that Multichannel News article while I was at the show which is one of the things that made me ask about it. But the Pace reps I talked to were adamant that the units being shown at the show were Intel based and they didn’t have the Broadcom model yet. And I explicitly asked if that meant the TiVo software was running on x86, as that would be new, and they said yes, it was.

          So yeah, confusing.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/TechWzrd Sam Biller

    This is my speculation but connecting the dots from multiple sources leads to this conclusion which I’m nearly certain about.

    Charter is switching to the Pace XG1 with TiVo Software. The roll-out is scheduled to begin later this year but I’m guessing that is an aggressive schedule since its a new box with new software. The Pace XG1 probably offers Charter a lower cost since it is replaces a number of devices in the home. It has a much faster Broadcom processor inside so it should be able to offer the TiVo Stream functionality without the need for an external box. It should also be more responsive from a user experience perspective. Finally, it has six-tuners instead of four.

    Here are TiVo’s Tom Roger’s comment when he was specifically asked about the Charter relationship the day after earnings at a Sanford Bernstein conference.

    Charter is the biggest relationship we have among US operators. Charter relationship is good. We are in a good position to do something quite significant there. I sighted on the earnings call yesterday, Tom Rutledge, the new CEOs comments on the value of TiVo as an interface, our value proposition as something that can evolve going forward with future generations of implementation that they are looking at. The fact of the matter is that Tom Rutledge came to Charter with a very clear point of view that he wants to enhance the perception of the video offering of Charter and to do that is one of his top priorities. We’ve done a lot of work to be in a position with Charter to do just that and I think it will become apparent that we are playing that role. We look at the Charter relationship where we are all about the UI. Far less important about the hardware. Separate the role of user experience and UI with hardware. We provide hardware as a vehicle for operators to do that but its important as a faster way to move. We are very comfortable playing the role of building into other hardware. At the Cable Show last week we had a very positive reaction as people went from our booth to see the user experience and went next door to the Pace booth to see the user experience built into the Pace hardware and saw that you could combine what is perceived as best-in-class in user experience with what is viewed as the most efficient CapEx implementation in the Pace hardware and the combination of those really do hit a sweet spot that operators are focused on. That provides us a great way to move forward broadly with the cable industry.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/TechWzrd Sam Biller

    This is my speculation but connecting the dots from multiple sources leads to this conclusion which I’m nearly certain about.

    Charter is switching to the Pace XG1 with TiVo Software. The roll-out is scheduled to begin later this year but I’m guessing that is an aggressive schedule since its a new box with new software. The Pace XG1 probably offers Charter a lower cost since it is replaces a number of devices in the home. It has a much faster Broadcom processor inside so it should be able to offer the TiVo Stream functionality without the need for an external box. It should also be more responsive from a user experience perspective. Finally, it has six-tuners instead of four.

    Here are TiVo’s Tom Roger’s comment when he was specifically asked about the Charter relationship the day after earnings at a Sanford Bernstein conference.

    Charter is the biggest relationship we have among US operators. Charter relationship is good. We are in a good position to do something quite significant there. I sighted on the earnings call yesterday, Tom Rutledge, the new CEOs comments on the value of TiVo as an interface, our value proposition as something that can evolve going forward with future generations of implementation that they are looking at. The fact of the matter is that Tom Rutledge came to Charter with a very clear point of view that he wants to enhance the perception of the video offering of Charter and to do that is one of his top priorities. We’ve done a lot of work to be in a position with Charter to do just that and I think it will become apparent that we are playing that role. We look at the Charter relationship where we are all about the UI. Far less important about the hardware. Separate the role of user experience and UI with hardware. We provide hardware as a vehicle for operators to do that but its important as a faster way to move. We are very comfortable playing the role of building into other hardware. At the Cable Show last week we had a very positive reaction as people went from our booth to see the user experience and went next door to the Pace booth to see the user experience built into the Pace hardware and saw that you could combine what is perceived as best-in-class in user experience with what is viewed as the most efficient CapEx implementation in the Pace hardware and the combination of those really do hit a sweet spot that operators are focused on. That provides us a great way to move forward broadly with the cable industry.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/TechWzrd Sam Biller

    This is my speculation but connecting the dots from multiple sources leads to this conclusion which I’m nearly certain about.

    Charter is switching to the Pace XG1 with TiVo Software. The roll-out is scheduled to begin later this year but I’m guessing that is an aggressive schedule since its a new box with new software. The Pace XG1 probably offers Charter a lower cost since it is replaces a number of devices in the home. It has a much faster Broadcom processor inside so it should be able to offer the TiVo Stream functionality without the need for an external box. It should also be more responsive from a user experience perspective. Finally, it has six-tuners instead of four.

    Here are TiVo’s Tom Roger’s comment when he was specifically asked about the Charter relationship the day after earnings at a Sanford Bernstein conference.

    Charter is the biggest relationship we have among US operators. Charter relationship is good. We are in a good position to do something quite significant there. I sighted on the earnings call yesterday, Tom Rutledge, the new CEOs comments on the value of TiVo as an interface, our value proposition as something that can evolve going forward with future generations of implementation that they are looking at. The fact of the matter is that Tom Rutledge came to Charter with a very clear point of view that he wants to enhance the perception of the video offering of Charter and to do that is one of his top priorities. We’ve done a lot of work to be in a position with Charter to do just that and I think it will become apparent that we are playing that role. We look at the Charter relationship where we are all about the UI. Far less important about the hardware. Separate the role of user experience and UI with hardware. We provide hardware as a vehicle for operators to do that but its important as a faster way to move. We are very comfortable playing the role of building into other hardware. At the Cable Show last week we had a very positive reaction as people went from our booth to see the user experience and went next door to the Pace booth to see the user experience built into the Pace hardware and saw that you could combine what is perceived as best-in-class in user experience with what is viewed as the most efficient CapEx implementation in the Pace hardware and the combination of those really do hit a sweet spot that operators are focused on. That provides us a great way to move forward broadly with the cable industry.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/TechWzrd Sam Biller

    This is my speculation but connecting the dots from multiple sources leads to this conclusion which I’m nearly certain about.

    Charter is switching to the Pace XG1 with TiVo Software. The roll-out is scheduled to begin later this year but I’m guessing that is an aggressive schedule since its a new box with new software. The Pace XG1 probably offers Charter a lower cost since it is replaces a number of devices in the home. It has a much faster Broadcom processor inside so it should be able to offer the TiVo Stream functionality without the need for an external box. It should also be more responsive from a user experience perspective. Finally, it has six-tuners instead of four.

    Here are TiVo’s Tom Roger’s comment when he was specifically asked about the Charter relationship the day after earnings at a Sanford Bernstein conference.

    Charter is the biggest relationship we have among US operators. Charter relationship is good. We are in a good position to do something quite significant there. I sighted on the earnings call yesterday, Tom Rutledge, the new CEOs comments on the value of TiVo as an interface, our value proposition as something that can evolve going forward with future generations of implementation that they are looking at. The fact of the matter is that Tom Rutledge came to Charter with a very clear point of view that he wants to enhance the perception of the video offering of Charter and to do that is one of his top priorities. We’ve done a lot of work to be in a position with Charter to do just that and I think it will become apparent that we are playing that role. We look at the Charter relationship where we are all about the UI. Far less important about the hardware. Separate the role of user experience and UI with hardware. We provide hardware as a vehicle for operators to do that but its important as a faster way to move. We are very comfortable playing the role of building into other hardware. At the Cable Show last week we had a very positive reaction as people went from our booth to see the user experience and went next door to the Pace booth to see the user experience built into the Pace hardware and saw that you could combine what is perceived as best-in-class in user experience with what is viewed as the most efficient CapEx implementation in the Pace hardware and the combination of those really do hit a sweet spot that operators are focused on. That provides us a great way to move forward broadly with the cable industry.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/TechWzrd Sam Biller

    This is my speculation but connecting the dots from multiple sources leads to this conclusion which I’m nearly certain about.

    Charter is switching to the Pace XG1 with TiVo Software. The roll-out is scheduled to begin later this year but I’m guessing that is an aggressive schedule since its a new box with new software. The Pace XG1 probably offers Charter a lower cost since it is replaces a number of devices in the home. It has a much faster Broadcom processor inside so it should be able to offer the TiVo Stream functionality without the need for an external box. It should also be more responsive from a user experience perspective. Finally, it has six-tuners instead of four.

    Here are TiVo’s Tom Roger’s comment when he was specifically asked about the Charter relationship the day after earnings at a Sanford Bernstein conference.

    Charter is the biggest relationship we have among US operators. Charter relationship is good. We are in a good position to do something quite significant there. I sighted on the earnings call yesterday, Tom Rutledge, the new CEOs comments on the value of TiVo as an interface, our value proposition as something that can evolve going forward with future generations of implementation that they are looking at. The fact of the matter is that Tom Rutledge came to Charter with a very clear point of view that he wants to enhance the perception of the video offering of Charter and to do that is one of his top priorities. We’ve done a lot of work to be in a position with Charter to do just that and I think it will become apparent that we are playing that role. We look at the Charter relationship where we are all about the UI. Far less important about the hardware. Separate the role of user experience and UI with hardware. We provide hardware as a vehicle for operators to do that but its important as a faster way to move. We are very comfortable playing the role of building into other hardware. At the Cable Show last week we had a very positive reaction as people went from our booth to see the user experience and went next door to the Pace booth to see the user experience built into the Pace hardware and saw that you could combine what is perceived as best-in-class in user experience with what is viewed as the most efficient CapEx implementation in the Pace hardware and the combination of those really do hit a sweet spot that operators are focused on. That provides us a great way to move forward broadly with the cable industry.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/TechWzrd Sam Biller

    This is my speculation but connecting the dots from multiple sources leads to this conclusion which I’m nearly certain about.

    Charter is switching to the Pace XG1 with TiVo Software. The roll-out is scheduled to begin later this year but I’m guessing that is an aggressive schedule since its a new box with new software. The Pace XG1 probably offers Charter a lower cost since it is replaces a number of devices in the home. It has a much faster Broadcom processor inside so it should be able to offer the TiVo Stream functionality without the need for an external box. It should also be more responsive from a user experience perspective. Finally, it has six-tuners instead of four.

    Here are TiVo’s Tom Roger’s comment when he was specifically asked about the Charter relationship the day after earnings at a Sanford Bernstein conference.

    Charter is the biggest relationship we have among US operators. Charter relationship is good. We are in a good position to do something quite significant there. I sighted on the earnings call yesterday, Tom Rutledge, the new CEOs comments on the value of TiVo as an interface, our value proposition as something that can evolve going forward with future generations of implementation that they are looking at. The fact of the matter is that Tom Rutledge came to Charter with a very clear point of view that he wants to enhance the perception of the video offering of Charter and to do that is one of his top priorities. We’ve done a lot of work to be in a position with Charter to do just that and I think it will become apparent that we are playing that role. We look at the Charter relationship where we are all about the UI. Far less important about the hardware. Separate the role of user experience and UI with hardware. We provide hardware as a vehicle for operators to do that but its important as a faster way to move. We are very comfortable playing the role of building into other hardware. At the Cable Show last week we had a very positive reaction as people went from our booth to see the user experience and went next door to the Pace booth to see the user experience built into the Pace hardware and saw that you could combine what is perceived as best-in-class in user experience with what is viewed as the most efficient CapEx implementation in the Pace hardware and the combination of those really do hit a sweet spot that operators are focused on. That provides us a great way to move forward broadly with the cable industry.

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  • Brian Rock

    Hate to comment on an old article, but has anyone heard anything new on whether Charter is going to deploy the Pace XG1 with Tivo software?

  • Brian Rock

    Hate to comment on an old article, but has anyone heard anything new on whether Charter is going to deploy the Pace XG1 with Tivo software?

  • Brian Rock

    Hate to comment on an old article, but has anyone heard anything new on whether Charter is going to deploy the Pace XG1 with Tivo software?

  • Brian Rock

    Hate to comment on an old article, but has anyone heard anything new on whether Charter is going to deploy the Pace XG1 with Tivo software?

  • Brian Rock

    Hate to comment on an old article, but has anyone heard anything new on whether Charter is going to deploy the Pace XG1 with Tivo software?

  • Brian Rock

    Hate to comment on an old article, but has anyone heard anything new on whether Charter is going to deploy the Pace XG1 with Tivo software?